The Stadium Course at PGA WEST

About
This is the monster of all monsters, the one that carries so many folktales of golfer terror with it that it should qualify as its own myth. The developers asked Pete Dye to make this "the toughest golf course in the world" and many argue he succeeded. Too well.
The Stadium Course at PGA WEST in La Quinta is one of those tracks that any self-respecting golf nut has to play once. Just to experience it. Just to say you did. Just to have stories of golf cruelty to tell at the office water cooler. There's a 19-foot deep bunker on the 16th hole. That's right. A 19-foot deep bunker. Your ball won't get out. Heck, you might not get out. From the back tees it measures 7,300 yards with an incredible 148-slope rating.
Every hole is a story waiting to be told. Either in success to be bragged about or failure to be even more bragged about. The PGA players moaned about this course so loud that it's no longer a regular stop on tour. Yet for average hackers, it's often a joy of punishment. Go in with the right attitude and it's liable to be one of your most unforgettable days of golf.
Tee | Par | Length | Rating | Slope |
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Black | 72 | 7300 yards | 75.8 | 148 |
Black (W) | 72 | 7300 yards | 82.5 | 154 |
Blue | 72 | 6739 yards | 73.1 | 140 |
Blue (W) | 72 | 6739 yards | 79.3 | 147 |
Blue/White | 72 | 6383 yards | 71.2 | 136 |
Blue/White (W) | 72 | 6383 yards | 77.2 | 142 |
White | 72 | 6166 yards | 70.2 | 133 |
White (W) | 72 | 6166 yards | 75.9 | 139 |
Gold (W) | 72 | 5700 yards | 73.9 | 134 |
Gold | 72 | 5700 yards | 67.9 | 125 |
Gold/Red | 72 | 5370 yards | 66.4 | 120 |
Gold/Red (W) | 72 | 5370 yards | 71.7 | 130 |
Red (W) | 72 | 5092 yards | 69.9 | 127 |
Red | 72 | 5092 yards | 65.1 | 115 |
Silver | 72 | 4084 yards | 60.7 | 103 |
Silver (W) | 72 | 4084 yards | 64.2 | 114 |
Hole | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Out | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | In | Total |
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Black M: 76.0/148 W: 82.3/154 | 445 | 371 | 471 | 192 | 535 | 255 | 346 | 559 | 452 | 3626 | 416 | 617 | 363 | 214 | 389 | 468 | 600 | 168 | 439 | 3674 | 7300 |
Black/Blue M: 74.6/145 W: 80.6/150 | 382 | 371 | 448 | 170 | 535 | 223 | 346 | 559 | 430 | 3464 | 416 | 591 | 363 | 195 | 389 | 436 | 600 | 146 | 405 | 3541 | 7005 |
Blue M: 73.4/141 W: 79.1/147 | 382 | 348 | 448 | 170 | 514 | 223 | 309 | 526 | 430 | 3350 | 380 | 591 | 347 | 195 | 372 | 436 | 517 | 146 | 405 | 3389 | 6739 |
Blue/White M: 71.7/137 W: 77.1/142 | 358 | 348 | 383 | 170 | 514 | 187 | 309 | 526 | 382 | 3177 | 351 | 530 | 347 | 167 | 372 | 404 | 517 | 131 | 387 | 3206 | 6383 |
White M: 70.6/134 W: 75.8/138 | 358 | 328 | 383 | 151 | 496 | 187 | 295 | 486 | 382 | 3066 | 351 | 530 | 308 | 167 | 348 | 404 | 474 | 131 | 387 | 3100 | 6166 |
White/Gold M: 69.0/129 W: 74.0/134 | 334 | 328 | 356 | 133 | 496 | 146 | 295 | 486 | 362 | 2936 | 327 | 482 | 308 | 167 | 328 | 367 | 474 | 131 | 318 | 2902 | 5838 |
Gold M: 68.4/127 W: 73.2/132 | 334 | 320 | 356 | 133 | 460 | 146 | 281 | 471 | 362 | 2863 | 327 | 482 | 287 | 153 | 328 | 367 | 463 | 112 | 318 | 2837 | 5700 |
Gold/Red M: 66.8/122 W: 71.3/128 | 334 | 320 | 327 | 111 | 437 | 133 | 281 | 429 | 313 | 2685 | 327 | 442 | 287 | 105 | 328 | 338 | 428 | 112 | 318 | 2685 | 5370 |
Red M: 65.5/118 W: 69.7/125 | 304 | 290 | 327 | 111 | 437 | 133 | 240 | 429 | 313 | 2584 | 294 | 442 | 249 | 105 | 293 | 338 | 428 | 83 | 276 | 2508 | 5092 |
Red/Silver M: 63.0/111 W: 66.6/118 | 239 | 230 | 262 | 111 | 437 | 112 | 240 | 429 | 231 | 2291 | 237 | 442 | 249 | 105 | 209 | 270 | 428 | 83 | 232 | 2255 | 4546 |
Silver M: 60.9/106 W: 64.0/112 | 239 | 230 | 262 | 106 | 335 | 112 | 190 | 358 | 231 | 2063 | 237 | 350 | 220 | 94 | 209 | 270 | 343 | 66 | 232 | 2021 | 4084 |
Handicap | 9 | 15 | 3 | 17 | 7 | 5 | 11 | 13 | 1 | 6 | 8 | 18 | 10 | 12 | 4 | 16 | 14 | 2 | |||
Par | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 36 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 36 | 72 |
Handicap (W) | 9 | 5 | 1 | 17 | 7 | 15 | 13 | 11 | 3 | 4 | 8 | 14 | 18 | 12 | 6 | 2 | 16 | 10 |
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Photo submitted by chrissyoonn on 01/11/2025
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Photo submitted by captainjto on 09/16/2024
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Photo submitted by dclavergne on 03/26/2024
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Photo submitted by Ster15 on 01/11/2024
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Photo submitted by Ster15 on 01/11/2024
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Just to prove that i was there for real Photo submitted by u314163680578 on 01/04/2024
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Photo submitted by brianmcneely on 12/20/2023
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Photo submitted by ckarta on 11/16/2023
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Photo submitted by RyanYoo on 09/04/2023
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Photo submitted by rtmarett on 04/13/2023
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Photo submitted by David7946689 on 03/10/2023
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Photo submitted by derrickstratman on 12/30/2022
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Photo submitted by dentureguy1 on 12/28/2022
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Par 3 Hole# 13 Photo submitted by Patrick2494966 on 12/28/2022
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The moon coming over the mountains was an added bonus Photo submitted by Denis1turenne on 11/08/2022
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Photo submitted by u314161487788 on 04/28/2022
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Photo submitted by mprice26 on 01/31/2022
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Photo submitted by Bob5227955 on 01/15/2022
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Photo submitted by Bob5227955 on 01/15/2022
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Photo submitted by Bob5227955 on 01/15/2022
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Photo submitted by rdrpops1976 on 05/19/2021
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Photo submitted by hhindman1 on 03/23/2021
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Great Island Green Photo submitted by Rethoghead on 03/10/2021
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Photo submitted by u314161146232 on 01/15/2021
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Photo submitted by u425184049 on 12/29/2020
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Photo submitted by u314160828540 on 09/26/2020
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Photo submitted by elsinoreracer on 09/12/2020
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Photo submitted by gerardo2187051 on 06/18/2020
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Photo submitted by u527637026 on 01/31/2020
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Photo submitted by u929327549 on 01/28/2020
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17th "Alcatraz" Photo submitted by u314159354135 on 01/02/2020
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Keep it left, 300 yard waste area Photo submitted by u314159354135 on 01/02/2020
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Hitting over water often. Photo submitted by u314159354135 on 01/02/2020
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Photo submitted by Stephen1429457 on 12/29/2019
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Photo submitted by Ogle0437 on 11/27/2019
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Photo submitted by Ogle0437 on 11/27/2019
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Pepper on teh 6th Tee Photo submitted by Gremlingolfer on 05/15/2019
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Photo submitted by GREGCGOLFER on 09/26/2018
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Photo submitted by GREGCGOLFER on 09/26/2018
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Photo submitted by GREGCGOLFER on 09/26/2018
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Photo submitted by GREGCGOLFER on 09/26/2018
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Photo submitted by MikeBaileyGolf on 03/13/2018
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Photo submitted by MikeBaileyGolf on 03/13/2018
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Photo submitted by MikeBaileyGolf on 03/13/2018
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Photo submitted by MikeBaileyGolf on 03/13/2018
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Hole # 17 Photo submitted by Jsratike on 12/31/2016
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LOTS OF MOGULS Photo submitted by davidmadden on 04/10/2016
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Photo submitted by Walkitin80 on 04/10/2016
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17th hole Photo submitted by uPKKY6157PK on 04/17/2015
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Alcatraz Photo submitted by Joe9098914 on 07/16/2014
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Island green on #17 Photo submitted by 00maniac on 11/28/2013
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#6 "Amen" 100 yard plus carry over water Photo submitted by alanm0075 on 09/18/2013
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#5 "Double Trouble" Water post tee box and guarding the green plus a double dog leg. Photo submitted by alanm0075 on 09/18/2013
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#7 "Black Hole" water post tee box and guarding the green. Photo submitted by alanm0075 on 09/18/2013
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Photo submitted by djripper on 05/20/2013
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Photo submitted by djripper on 05/20/2013
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Photo submitted by djripper on 05/20/2013
Terrible pace of play
5h20 to complete 18 holes. Tons of groups spending time as if they’re playing on the PGA only to shank a shot or 3 putt. Marshall was useless and told us to take more time to make space (yeah great idea. Punish everyone behind us even more!) and refused to admonish the slow group of amateurs using Aim Point at every hole… I guess he did not hear of etiquette and the basic rules of golf. Not only that, some genius accountant brilliantly decided to book a corporate competition of 12-14 foursomes who thought they were in the Ryder Cup without telling regular visitors. Nice touch for a $600-700 green fee. Horrendous.
Very well run
I had an early am tee time. Pace of play was awesome: four hours precisely for our threesome. Course conditions were great, though greens were firmer than I would expect especially for morning. Holding a shot on famed 17th was an extra difficult challenge. Ernie’s for lunch was fantastic. One note: I picked up my clubs post round with no oversight or security. Made me a bit concerned about their safety.
Nice course but slow
It is really good course, but management is poor and the play was delayed.
Immaculate
This course is an absolute treat, pristine shape, even the driving range is perfect.
The stadium course had a 2.5 hour frost delay. By the time my tee time rolled around I would have only been able to play 6 or 7 holes. Because it was prepaid thru golf now, they couldn't refund but they said if I did contact golf now they would support getting a refund. They proshop offered me an immediate e date tee time on the Nicklas course if I wanted to do that, which I did and was able to squeeze in 18. The staff was very friendly, helpful, and did the best they could do.
Tough but fair
A great golf course. Tough but very fair. TV does give the gully on 16 on how deep it hs. Can’t wait to play it again.
Played right after the American Express
Was fortunate to get on a couple of days after the American Express. Course was in great condition and a lot of the grandstands were still up. Front 9 is definitely easier than the back in my opinion and you definitely need to manage where you are missing. Some places are way better to kiss into than others. Very challenging layout and fast undulating greens with lots of bunkers. The dormant Bermuda rough helps with ease of finding wayward shots and we were lucky it wasn’t windy. Staff was great and the course was awesome! Definitely want to play it again as well as the other PGA West courses.
spoiled bucket list outing.
We knew that booking our group to play following a marquee tournament would be memorable but we left feeling jaded by the experience due to what we noted as lack of service-oriented staff coupled with poor communication and management. We expected better!
"a great day, but not perfect"
never received notice of frost delay; long delay to tee off made completing the round before darkness very challenging. never saw a marshal on the course to help with pace of play - which was close to 4 hours 50 minutes. never received a pin sheet making approach shots more difficult. However, course conditions and greens near perfect (only two days after Amex Tournament).