PGA WEST Greg Norman Course
Rating Snapshot
5 Stars
776
4 Stars
348
3 Stars
104
2 Stars
62
1 Stars
36
Conditions
4.5
Value
4.3
Layout
4.6
Friendliness
4.6
Pace
4.2
Amenities
4.2
5 Stars
51
4 Stars
27
3 Stars
4
2 Stars
5
1 Stars
1
Conditions
4.6
Value
3.9
Layout
4.6
Pace
3.9
Amenities
4.0
StaffFriendliness
4.5
5 Stars
116
4 Stars
38
3 Stars
10
2 Stars
8
1 Stars
1
Conditions
4.6
Value
4.2
Layout
4.7
Pace
4.1
Amenities
4.2
StaffFriendliness
4.6
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PGA West - Greg Norman Golf Course
About
Holes
18
Type
Public/Resort
Par
72
Length
7156 yards
Slope
139
Rating
75.1
The Shark's turned in what's widely regarded as the second-toughest course at PGA WEST - Greg Norman Course in La Quinta.
No small feat considering the developers of the neighboring TPC Stadium ordered Pete Dye to make it, "the hardest damn golf course in the world."
"There's a difference," said Jack Guevera, a golfer who's played both. "You might think you have it easy if you play the Norman after the Stadium .... But probably not."
Here's the difference: Dye tries to kill you at TPC Stadium. Norman only wants to beat you to a pulp.
Not that pummeling does not have its highlights. Norman's 216-yard, par-3 13th is the kind of hole that seizes your attention and lingers in memory after the round.
What little fairway there is curves around toward a man-made lake. It is also tilted down on a sharp angle to the water, giving the golfer the effect of hitting along a ledge.
Each shot is a tap dance here. You could not even get odds in Vegas on your chances of avoiding all of the deep, slanted bunkers that squeeze the mini fairway even tighter.
"Greg Norman wants you to choke," TravelGolf.com West Coast Bureau Chief Chris Baldwin said. "The supremely-talented, enthrallingly-entertaining golfer cursed to be forever remembered for his excruciating collapses wants the average hacker to experience just a taste of this misery."
| Tee | Par | Length | Rating | Slope |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black | 72 | 7156 yards | 75.1 | 139 |
| Black (W) | 72 | 7156 yards | 81.9 | 145 |
| Blue | 72 | 6671 yards | 72.8 | 133 |
| Blue (W) | 72 | 6671 yards | 79.2 | 137 |
| Blue/White | 72 | 6427 yards | 71.5 | 128 |
| Blue/White (W) | 72 | 6427 yards | 77.7 | 134 |
| White | 72 | 6227 yards | 70.6 | 126 |
| White (W) | 72 | 6227 yards | 76.6 | 131 |
| Gold | 72 | 5751 yards | 68.4 | 120 |
| Gold (W) | 72 | 5751 yards | 73.4 | 126 |
| Gold/Red | 72 | 5523 yards | 67.0 | 115 |
| Gold/Red (W) | 72 | 5523 yards | 72.4 | 123 |
| Red | 72 | 5297 yards | 65.6 | 112 |
| Red (W) | 72 | 5297 yards | 71.4 | 120 |
| Silver | 72 | 3978 yards | 59.7 | 98 |
| Silver (W) | 72 | 3978 yards | 63.1 | 108 |
Scorecard for Greg Norman
Metrics:
| Hole | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Out | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | In | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black M: 74.6/136 W: 81.5/144 | 409 | 526 | 477 | 140 | 380 | 481 | 181 | 617 | 359 | 3570 | 415 | 337 | 566 | 216 | 443 | 431 | 537 | 180 | 461 | 3586 | 7156 |
| Black/blue M: 73.3/133 W: 80.1/141 | 409 | 526 | 449 | 140 | 380 | 450 | 144 | 591 | 359 | 3448 | 415 | 337 | 566 | 192 | 415 | 406 | 537 | 161 | 440 | 3469 | 6917 |
| Blue M: 72.0/130 W: 78.8/138 | 379 | 499 | 449 | 137 | 349 | 450 | 144 | 591 | 339 | 3337 | 384 | 302 | 521 | 192 | 415 | 406 | 513 | 161 | 440 | 3334 | 6671 |
| White/Blue M: 70.8/127 W: 77.3/135 | 352 | 499 | 419 | 137 | 349 | 420 | 144 | 561 | 339 | 3220 | 384 | 302 | 521 | 171 | 386 | 383 | 513 | 142 | 405 | 3207 | 6427 |
| White M: 70.0/124 W: 76.0/132 | 352 | 470 | 419 | 111 | 317 | 420 | 133 | 561 | 317 | 3100 | 370 | 272 | 507 | 171 | 386 | 383 | 491 | 142 | 405 | 3127 | 6227 |
| White/Gold M: 68.5/120 W: 74.5/128 | 329 | 470 | 384 | 111 | 317 | 395 | 133 | 531 | 317 | 2987 | 331 | 272 | 507 | 155 | 351 | 358 | 491 | 126 | 374 | 2965 | 5952 |
| Gold M: 67.4/117 W: 73.3/125 | 329 | 440 | 384 | 105 | 289 | 395 | 96 | 531 | 292 | 2861 | 331 | 262 | 457 | 155 | 351 | 358 | 476 | 126 | 374 | 2890 | 5751 |
| Gold/Red M: 66.1/114 W: 72.0/122 | 329 | 440 | 350 | 105 | 289 | 370 | 96 | 509 | 292 | 2780 | 331 | 262 | 425 | 129 | 351 | 335 | 442 | 126 | 342 | 2743 | 5523 |
| Red M: 65.0/111 W: 70.9/119 | 298 | 407 | 350 | 94 | 264 | 370 | 84 | 509 | 283 | 2659 | 305 | 221 | 425 | 129 | 337 | 335 | 442 | 102 | 342 | 2638 | 5297 |
| Red/Silver M: 61.9/102 W: 67.0/110 | 298 | 407 | 262 | 94 | 264 | 266 | 84 | 376 | 283 | 2334 | 224 | 221 | 425 | 129 | 248 | 247 | 442 | 102 | 256 | 2294 | 4628 |
| Silver M: 58.9/94 W: 63.4/101 | 216 | 305 | 262 | 86 | 198 | 266 | 73 | 376 | 212 | 1994 | 224 | 170 | 313 | 107 | 248 | 247 | 324 | 95 | 256 | 1984 | 3978 |
| Handicap | 9 | 13 | 3 | 17 | 11 | 1 | 15 | 5 | 7 | 8 | 18 | 16 | 2 | 10 | 12 | 6 | 14 | 4 | |||
| Par | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 36 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 36 | 72 |
| Handicap (W) | 10 | 3 | 6 | 17 | 12 | 1 | 15 | 4 | 8 | 11 | 18 | 9 | 14 | 13 | 2 | 5 | 16 | 7 |
Course Details
Year Built
1999
Fairways
Tiftdwarf Bermuda Grass
Greens
Bermuda Grass
Golf Season
Year round
Rentals/Services
Carts
Yes
GPS
No
Clubs
Yes
Practice/Instruction
Driving Range
Yes
Golf School/Academy
Yes
Teaching Pro
Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area
Yes
Putting Green
Yes
Practice Hole
Yes
Policies
Credit Cards Accepted
Visa, MC, AMEX, Discover
Metal Spikes Allowed
No
Dress code
No denim, collared shirt and bermuda shorts required.
Available Facilities
Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Banquet FacilitiesThe Best Way To Book Is With GolfPass+
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$120 in tee time credits
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Reviews
4.5
Reviewer Photos
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Windy day Photo submitted by 43VUiyb2K5WWxq1MWcZc on 10/19/2024
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Go Get’em Photo submitted by u000005458741 on 05/13/2024
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16th hole Photo submitted by Peter2461971 on 04/30/2024
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Photo submitted by Chris2330035 on 03/05/2024
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Photo submitted by Tigerfan867 on 02/14/2024
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+ 34 morePhoto submitted by Tigerfan867 on 02/14/2024
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Photo submitted by bchavez06 on 09/04/2023
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Photo submitted by bchavez06 on 09/04/2023
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Photo submitted by u484466922 on 06/20/2023
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Photo submitted by EricDSebring on 06/07/2023
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Photo submitted by Kyle2054273 on 03/31/2023
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Photo submitted by Kyle2054273 on 03/31/2023
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Photo submitted by Kyle2054273 on 03/31/2023
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Photo submitted by Kyle2054273 on 03/31/2023
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Photo submitted by u314159420178 on 01/19/2023
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Photo submitted by Timbuktulous on 10/24/2022
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Photo submitted by gjscott3rd on 09/12/2022
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Photo submitted by gjscott3rd on 09/12/2022
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Photo submitted by u000002686992 on 06/29/2022
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Par 3 4th Photo submitted by u000002686992 on 06/29/2022
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Bunker at 14 Photo submitted by u000002686992 on 06/29/2022
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Photo submitted by golferchic78 on 11/13/2021
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13th hole — land it short of the pin! Photo submitted by u314161211354 on 03/09/2021
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Perfect day Photo submitted by u119001050 on 11/15/2020
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View from 8th tee box Photo submitted by Jennifer8804683 on 11/26/2019
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Photo submitted by Gremlingolfer on 05/15/2019
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Photo submitted by Gremlingolfer on 05/15/2019
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Photo submitted by xkyleclark3 on 06/13/2018
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Photo submitted by MikeBaileyGolf on 03/12/2018
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Photo submitted by MikeBaileyGolf on 03/12/2018
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Photo submitted by MikeBaileyGolf on 03/12/2018
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Photo submitted by MikeBaileyGolf on 03/12/2018
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The end of a perfect day Photo submitted by kenstrati on 01/15/2018
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Photo submitted by Shawn5932249 on 10/01/2017
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Photo submitted by Shawn5932249 on 10/01/2017
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Photo submitted by Shawn5932249 on 10/01/2017
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Photo submitted by Shawn5932249 on 10/01/2017
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Photo submitted by refrus123 on 01/27/2013
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Photo submitted by refrus123 on 01/27/2013
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Photo submitted by refrus123 on 01/27/2013
I Recommend This Course
Desert golf
Great conditions
Fast greens with a lot of bunkers
Extremely windy day but still enjoyable
Amenities were excellent
Conditions
Excellent
Value
Excellent
Layout
Excellent
Friendliness
Excellent
Pace
Good
Amenities
Excellent
I Recommend This Course
Lightning speed
Wow,
What a treat to play this course. Challenging and also has its rewards. Greens are fantastic at 11 and wide fairways.
Fun day at PGA Norman...will play again and made the A list.
Conditions
Excellent
Value
Excellent
Layout
Excellent
Friendliness
Excellent
Pace
Excellent
Amenities
Excellent
Difficulty
Somewhat Challenging
I Recommend This Course
Great Course
I have played this course previously and never dissapoints. Fast greens at 11 for the day.
Challenging yet fair if you have your a game on.
Conditions
Excellent
Value
Excellent
Layout
Excellent
Friendliness
Excellent
Pace
Excellent
Amenities
Excellent
Difficulty
Somewhat Challenging
Response from on 04/23/2025:
Thanks for the five-star rating. We’re thrilled you enjoyed your visit and appreciate your support. Our team looks forward to delivering the same level of excellence next time.
I Recommend This Course
Nice Desert style course.
Excellent course very playable and fair. However many Bunkers .
Conditions
Excellent
Value
Good
Layout
Good
Friendliness
Excellent
Pace
Excellent
Amenities
Excellent
Response from on 04/23/2025:
Thanks for the five-star rating. We’re thrilled you enjoyed your visit and appreciate your support. Our team looks forward to delivering the same level of excellence next time.
Played On 04/16/2025
Reviews
19
Handicap
15-19
Skill
Intermediate
Plays
A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
Fair test
The course was in excellent and a much better course to play than when the fairways were narrow, with too many bushes and traps. It was very enjoyable and the fast greens challenging
Conditions
Excellent
Value
Excellent
Layout
Excellent
Friendliness
Excellent
Pace
Good
Amenities
Good
Difficulty
Somewhat Challenging
Response from on 04/18/2025:
Thanks for the five-star rating. We’re thrilled you enjoyed your visit and appreciate your support. Our team looks forward to delivering the same level of excellence next time.
I Recommend This Course
Conditions
Excellent
Value
Excellent
Layout
Excellent
Friendliness
Excellent
Pace
Excellent
Amenities
Good
I Recommend This Course
Nice layout
We played the course in the early afternoon and everything was perfect.
Conditions
Excellent
Value
Excellent
Layout
Good
Friendliness
Excellent
Pace
Excellent
Amenities
Good
Response from on 04/16/2025:
Thanks for the five-star rating. We’re thrilled you enjoyed your visit and appreciate your support. Our team looks forward to delivering the same level of excellence next time.
I Recommend This Course
Conditions
Excellent
Value
Excellent
Layout
Excellent
Friendliness
Excellent
Pace
Excellent
Amenities
Excellent
Difficulty
Extremely Challenging
I Recommend This Course
Not That Narrow
Some reviews say the course is narr. I didn’t think it was that narrow. But you or someone should keep an eye on your ball. Very easy to lose them if you don’t have a spotter.
Conditions
Excellent
Value
Average
Layout
Excellent
Friendliness
Excellent
Pace
Excellent
Amenities
Excellent
I Recommend This Course
Conditions
Excellent
Value
Good
Layout
Excellent
Friendliness
Good
Pace
Excellent
Amenities
Good
I Recommend This Course
Fast greens tons of bunkers
99 total bunkers and I only hit 1! Super fast greens had the course alone! Could have used more water to drink on the course.
Conditions
Excellent
Value
Excellent
Layout
Excellent
Friendliness
Excellent
Pace
Excellent
Amenities
Good
Response from on 04/15/2025:
Thanks for the five-star rating. We’re thrilled you enjoyed your visit and appreciate your support. Our team looks forward to delivering the same level of excellence next time.
Played On 04/09/2025
Reviews
1
Handicap
10-14
Skill
Intermediate
Plays
A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
Conditions
Excellent
Value
Excellent
Layout
Excellent
Friendliness
Excellent
Pace
Excellent
Amenities
Excellent
Difficulty
Extremely Challenging
I Recommend This Course
Conditions
Excellent
Value
Excellent
Layout
Excellent
Friendliness
Excellent
Pace
Excellent
Amenities
Good
I Recommend This Course
Conditions
Excellent
Value
Good
Layout
Excellent
Friendliness
Good
Pace
Excellent
Amenities
Good
Played On 04/04/2025
Reviews
18
Handicap
10-14
Skill
Intermediate
Plays
A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
Conditions
Excellent
Value
Good
Layout
Excellent
Friendliness
Excellent
Pace
Average
Amenities
Excellent
I Recommend This Course
Conditions
Good
Value
Excellent
Layout
Excellent
Friendliness
Excellent
Pace
Average
I Recommend This Course
Conditions
Excellent
Value
Good
Layout
Excellent
Friendliness
Excellent
Pace
Good
Amenities
Excellent
I Recommend This Course
Much tougher track than the rest of PGAW
Played at 1254p on a Friday. Pace was 4:35, back nine slowed down. Windy conditions. Any tee shot /approach that’s missed will find the waste areas and your ball can roll forever, or find a bush. Greens are much more difficult than Stadium. Course conditions were good. While a nice course, Inwould opt for Stadium, Nicklaus, Mountain and Dunes over Norman.
Conditions
Excellent
Value
Good
Layout
Good
Friendliness
Excellent
Pace
Good
Amenities
Good
I Recommend This Course
Conditions
Excellent
Value
Good
Layout
Excellent
Friendliness
Excellent
Pace
Good
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